dangermousie: (Capital Scandal secondary otp by meganbm)


Candidate N4 for "Top 10 Most Underrated Dramas" is perhaps the most underrated drama on the entire list - cable kdrama Someday, starring Bae Doona, Lee Jin Wook, Kim Min Joon and Oh Yoon Ah.

When she was 17, Hana (Bae Doona), a Korean brought up in Japan by her grandmother, won a prestigious award and was launched on a career as a popular manga artist in Japan. The same day Hana was launched on her path to popularity and fame, Seokman (Lee Jin Wook) was having the worst day of his life -- he and his family were involved in a car crash, leaving him the only survivor. Fast forward three years or so and the paths of Hana, now a well-known mangaka who is facing a creative draught, and Seokman, now a sort of a missing-persons detective, are about to collide.

Being a cable drama, not that many people have seen it and it's such a pity - this one is on my Top 10 kdramas list of all time for a reason. There are so many reasons as to why this deserves to be better known - its delicious off-beat vibe - this is as if Korea tried to do a jdrama with its realistic feel and its meditation on life but retained its own strengths of romance and suffering and gorgeous cinematography. Its love story, which made me cry and cry and then grin like a lunatic and hug my pillows - it's so unexpected and sneaks up on you and then grabs and refuses to let go. Its stories of alienation and connections and families lost and found and made. Its laid-back charm which lures you in until you, all relaxed, are whacked with the darkness at the core, and are left gasping for breath (full disclosure - this drama made me cry more than once).

It is also a chance for you to see actors who do not often get leading roles actually be allowed to show their chops. The always sublime Bae Doona is well...sublime, as the quirky Hana who has locked her capacity for warmth and caring far away due to childhood loss - when the story starts she is almost an alien dropped among those weird humans - curious, exploratory, and oh-so-different. One of the biggest pleasures of the drama is to watch her learn to become fully human - to feel compassion, to feel love. Lee Jin Wook is one of my huge crushes and I was madly excited to see him get a leading role at last. And he doesn't disappoint, playing his character with so much sweetness that you get lulled into a false sense of security and don't realize just how much damage and despair Seokman has inside, until you are confronted with it, and then go "of course - it all makes sense now." His chemistry with Bae Doona is just so pitch-perfect - their whole relationship is so full of discovery and hope and tentativeness for both of them. You can't help but root for these two very damaged people to work it out and heal each other. She has no emotions but he has no hope or self-worth - and the biggest pleasure for me was to watch both of them recover what they lack. The drama Someday reminds me of most is my favorite twdrama, Mars - the two horribly damaged protagonists with vastly different coping mechanisms make each other better. It goes dark sometimes, terribly dark, but ultimately it's the story of new beginnings and of hope.

Kim Min Joon and Oh Yoon Ah are not secondary characters in this - every member of the quartet (and they are not really a love quartet in the usual sense) is equally important. If Hana and Seokman are horribly wounded children, both KMJ and OYA play grown-ups. If you are expecting a typical evil secondary girl, you are in for a disappointment. OYA's Hae Young is the sanest, best person in the quartet, and the one most in touch with her feelings, which include her unrequited love for her best friend Jin Pyo (KMJ). And speaking of Kim Min Joon - he plays perhaps the most controversial character in this - a psychiatrist who gloms onto Hana as a representation of his fanboy fantasies, not a real woman (he does not get to know the real Hana the way Seokman does) and who is the one most in control and delights in manipulation. But I ended up liking him nontheless - in a way, he was caught in a bubble as much as Hana was, only this bubble was of his own willful making.

My favorite scene? Because I am a sadist, it's the sequence leading to Seokman's suicide attempt (it's either that or he gets done in, due to the debts) - his counting how many minutes he has left and getting his math wrong, his visiting the hospital and tying up all the loose ends, his scene on the river bank with Hana, his suicide attempt itself, when he walks off limping and muttering "stupid stupid stupid" not able to think of anything but that he failed.

Favorite quote (Seokman to Hana): "I can't breathe because my heart is filled with thoughts of you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you."

Have a MV:

dangermousie: (Capital Scandal secondary otp by meganbm)


Candidate N4 for "Top 10 Most Underrated Dramas" is perhaps the most underrated drama on the entire list - cable kdrama Someday, starring Bae Doona, Lee Jin Wook, Kim Min Joon and Oh Yoon Ah.

When she was 17, Hana (Bae Doona), a Korean brought up in Japan by her grandmother, won a prestigious award and was launched on a career as a popular manga artist in Japan. The same day Hana was launched on her path to popularity and fame, Seokman (Lee Jin Wook) was having the worst day of his life -- he and his family were involved in a car crash, leaving him the only survivor. Fast forward three years or so and the paths of Hana, now a well-known mangaka who is facing a creative draught, and Seokman, now a sort of a missing-persons detective, are about to collide.

Being a cable drama, not that many people have seen it and it's such a pity - this one is on my Top 10 kdramas list of all time for a reason. There are so many reasons as to why this deserves to be better known - its delicious off-beat vibe - this is as if Korea tried to do a jdrama with its realistic feel and its meditation on life but retained its own strengths of romance and suffering and gorgeous cinematography. Its love story, which made me cry and cry and then grin like a lunatic and hug my pillows - it's so unexpected and sneaks up on you and then grabs and refuses to let go. Its stories of alienation and connections and families lost and found and made. Its laid-back charm which lures you in until you, all relaxed, are whacked with the darkness at the core, and are left gasping for breath (full disclosure - this drama made me cry more than once).

It is also a chance for you to see actors who do not often get leading roles actually be allowed to show their chops. The always sublime Bae Doona is well...sublime, as the quirky Hana who has locked her capacity for warmth and caring far away due to childhood loss - when the story starts she is almost an alien dropped among those weird humans - curious, exploratory, and oh-so-different. One of the biggest pleasures of the drama is to watch her learn to become fully human - to feel compassion, to feel love. Lee Jin Wook is one of my huge crushes and I was madly excited to see him get a leading role at last. And he doesn't disappoint, playing his character with so much sweetness that you get lulled into a false sense of security and don't realize just how much damage and despair Seokman has inside, until you are confronted with it, and then go "of course - it all makes sense now." His chemistry with Bae Doona is just so pitch-perfect - their whole relationship is so full of discovery and hope and tentativeness for both of them. You can't help but root for these two very damaged people to work it out and heal each other. She has no emotions but he has no hope or self-worth - and the biggest pleasure for me was to watch both of them recover what they lack. The drama Someday reminds me of most is my favorite twdrama, Mars - the two horribly damaged protagonists with vastly different coping mechanisms make each other better. It goes dark sometimes, terribly dark, but ultimately it's the story of new beginnings and of hope.

Kim Min Joon and Oh Yoon Ah are not secondary characters in this - every member of the quartet (and they are not really a love quartet in the usual sense) is equally important. If Hana and Seokman are horribly wounded children, both KMJ and OYA play grown-ups. If you are expecting a typical evil secondary girl, you are in for a disappointment. OYA's Hae Young is the sanest, best person in the quartet, and the one most in touch with her feelings, which include her unrequited love for her best friend Jin Pyo (KMJ). And speaking of Kim Min Joon - he plays perhaps the most controversial character in this - a psychiatrist who gloms onto Hana as a representation of his fanboy fantasies, not a real woman (he does not get to know the real Hana the way Seokman does) and who is the one most in control and delights in manipulation. But I ended up liking him nontheless - in a way, he was caught in a bubble as much as Hana was, only this bubble was of his own willful making.

My favorite scene? Because I am a sadist, it's the sequence leading to Seokman's suicide attempt (it's either that or he gets done in, due to the debts) - his counting how many minutes he has left and getting his math wrong, his visiting the hospital and tying up all the loose ends, his scene on the river bank with Hana, his suicide attempt itself, when he walks off limping and muttering "stupid stupid stupid" not able to think of anything but that he failed.

Favorite quote (Seokman to Hana): "I can't breathe because my heart is filled with thoughts of you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you."

Have a MV:

dangermousie: (Capital Scandal secondary otp by meganbm)


Candidate N4 for "Top 10 Most Underrated Dramas" is perhaps the most underrated drama on the entire list - cable kdrama Someday, starring Bae Doona, Lee Jin Wook, Kim Min Joon and Oh Yoon Ah.

When she was 17, Hana (Bae Doona), a Korean brought up in Japan by her grandmother, won a prestigious award and was launched on a career as a popular manga artist in Japan. The same day Hana was launched on her path to popularity and fame, Seokman (Lee Jin Wook) was having the worst day of his life -- he and his family were involved in a car crash, leaving him the only survivor. Fast forward three years or so and the paths of Hana, now a well-known mangaka who is facing a creative draught, and Seokman, now a sort of a missing-persons detective, are about to collide.

Being a cable drama, not that many people have seen it and it's such a pity - this one is on my Top 10 kdramas list of all time for a reason. There are so many reasons as to why this deserves to be better known - its delicious off-beat vibe - this is as if Korea tried to do a jdrama with its realistic feel and its meditation on life but retained its own strengths of romance and suffering and gorgeous cinematography. Its love story, which made me cry and cry and then grin like a lunatic and hug my pillows - it's so unexpected and sneaks up on you and then grabs and refuses to let go. Its stories of alienation and connections and families lost and found and made. Its laid-back charm which lures you in until you, all relaxed, are whacked with the darkness at the core, and are left gasping for breath (full disclosure - this drama made me cry more than once).

It is also a chance for you to see actors who do not often get leading roles actually be allowed to show their chops. The always sublime Bae Doona is well...sublime, as the quirky Hana who has locked her capacity for warmth and caring far away due to childhood loss - when the story starts she is almost an alien dropped among those weird humans - curious, exploratory, and oh-so-different. One of the biggest pleasures of the drama is to watch her learn to become fully human - to feel compassion, to feel love. Lee Jin Wook is one of my huge crushes and I was madly excited to see him get a leading role at last. And he doesn't disappoint, playing his character with so much sweetness that you get lulled into a false sense of security and don't realize just how much damage and despair Seokman has inside, until you are confronted with it, and then go "of course - it all makes sense now." His chemistry with Bae Doona is just so pitch-perfect - their whole relationship is so full of discovery and hope and tentativeness for both of them. You can't help but root for these two very damaged people to work it out and heal each other. She has no emotions but he has no hope or self-worth - and the biggest pleasure for me was to watch both of them recover what they lack. The drama Someday reminds me of most is my favorite twdrama, Mars - the two horribly damaged protagonists with vastly different coping mechanisms make each other better. It goes dark sometimes, terribly dark, but ultimately it's the story of new beginnings and of hope.

Kim Min Joon and Oh Yoon Ah are not secondary characters in this - every member of the quartet (and they are not really a love quartet in the usual sense) is equally important. If Hana and Seokman are horribly wounded children, both KMJ and OYA play grown-ups. If you are expecting a typical evil secondary girl, you are in for a disappointment. OYA's Hae Young is the sanest, best person in the quartet, and the one most in touch with her feelings, which include her unrequited love for her best friend Jin Pyo (KMJ). And speaking of Kim Min Joon - he plays perhaps the most controversial character in this - a psychiatrist who gloms onto Hana as a representation of his fanboy fantasies, not a real woman (he does not get to know the real Hana the way Seokman does) and who is the one most in control and delights in manipulation. But I ended up liking him nontheless - in a way, he was caught in a bubble as much as Hana was, only this bubble was of his own willful making.

My favorite scene? Because I am a sadist, it's the sequence leading to Seokman's suicide attempt (it's either that or he gets done in, due to the debts) - his counting how many minutes he has left and getting his math wrong, his visiting the hospital and tying up all the loose ends, his scene on the river bank with Hana, his suicide attempt itself, when he walks off limping and muttering "stupid stupid stupid" not able to think of anything but that he failed.

Favorite quote (Seokman to Hana): "I can't breathe because my heart is filled with thoughts of you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you."

Have a MV:

dangermousie: (Capital Scandal: height difference)
"I can't breathe because my heart is filled with thoughts of you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you."

YESSSSSSSSSSS.

((((Seokman))))

I think if I wasn't on the bed already, I would have probably fell back in a faint and hit my head.

Seokman/Hana are SUCH an OTP. That final scene with him sweeping her street at a God-forsaken hour of the morning and her seeing and running down and him smiling and opening up his arms? AAAAAAAA! I was so worried that their ending together was not going to happen and then it did!

Thank God. I was going to go spare otherwise - at one point (I think it was in ep 15) I literally said it out loud to my TV - "if they don't end up together, I will die!"

MMMMMM.

And they are all healed and functional, too! Realistically so. SO GOOD, you guys, SO GOOD.

Such a perfect drama.

Someday is going into my Top 10 for sure.
dangermousie: (Capital Scandal: height difference)
"I can't breathe because my heart is filled with thoughts of you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you."

YESSSSSSSSSSS.

((((Seokman))))

I think if I wasn't on the bed already, I would have probably fell back in a faint and hit my head.

Seokman/Hana are SUCH an OTP. That final scene with him sweeping her street at a God-forsaken hour of the morning and her seeing and running down and him smiling and opening up his arms? AAAAAAAA! I was so worried that their ending together was not going to happen and then it did!

Thank God. I was going to go spare otherwise - at one point (I think it was in ep 15) I literally said it out loud to my TV - "if they don't end up together, I will die!"

MMMMMM.

And they are all healed and functional, too! Realistically so. SO GOOD, you guys, SO GOOD.

Such a perfect drama.

Someday is going into my Top 10 for sure.
dangermousie: (Capital Scandal: height difference)
"I can't breathe because my heart is filled with thoughts of you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you."

YESSSSSSSSSSS.

((((Seokman))))

I think if I wasn't on the bed already, I would have probably fell back in a faint and hit my head.

Seokman/Hana are SUCH an OTP. That final scene with him sweeping her street at a God-forsaken hour of the morning and her seeing and running down and him smiling and opening up his arms? AAAAAAAA! I was so worried that their ending together was not going to happen and then it did!

Thank God. I was going to go spare otherwise - at one point (I think it was in ep 15) I literally said it out loud to my TV - "if they don't end up together, I will die!"

MMMMMM.

And they are all healed and functional, too! Realistically so. SO GOOD, you guys, SO GOOD.

Such a perfect drama.

Someday is going into my Top 10 for sure.
dangermousie: (Capital Scandal Secrets by miss_dian)
I just want to blabber a little about the theme of control in Someday because 3 of its four characters have huge control issues.



First, we'll take the most normal person out of the four - Haeyoung. Haeyoung is neither a control freak nor is she powerless. Her attitude is perfectly healthy - she does not go around thinking it's her fault somehow that Go prefers Hana (because ultimately she cannot control the way someone else's heart would go) but nor does she view herself as a passive victim of fate - she does try to change his mind - but not in an evil other girl way but in a sane normal fashion.

Unfortunately, that normalcy is something the other three characters lack.

Let's star with Go. Go's problem is that he is good at exercising control and so he does it as much as he can, even when he shouldn't. To put it plainly, he's controlling - Hana comes over to Korea to solve the mystery of Gumiko's diary. She does not come to find her mother. Yet Go insists on finding the mother for her, thrusting himself front and center into a complex emotional situation. Why? He is not Hana's boyfriend or even friend, but even if he was, that is no excuse to do things, major things affecting her life, without her consent or even knowledge. And it continues - whether it's huge things like finding her mother or bringing over her grandmother from Japan, or little things like taking her to a cemetary without asking her first, or proposing to her/pressuring her in a crowd of people, even while he knows Hana has no interest at all. There is a huge problem with that, aside from the fact that it is simply wrong - whatever benefits it may give him in the short term, it's an awful long-term strategy. Does he really think Hana (or any other person) would want to stay in a relationship where she is constantly controlled and/or manipulated? This is going to doom anything with Hana to disaster! He should know this uniquely well - the man is a shrink by profession and can read others like a book. But yet it seemingly never occurs to him things won't go according to his plan longterm - we get the sense that he's someone who's never had a wish of his denied or a desire ungratified. I think he may actually not care about the longterm because he's so consumed by immediate gratification, so unused to defeat. He needs to learn, so badly, that just because you can control someone, doesn't mean you should.

Hana has a different control problem. Her trauma is that her mother walked out on her to be with a man when Hana was still a child. Hana, thankfully, did not devolve into blaming herself or anything else of the sort, but how she dealt with the situation, with maintaining control and not being hurt again is to precisely delineate what is worthy of control and what is not - and she made her view on love be that it's a hormonal delusion at best, clearly it was something nonexistant and thus not worthy of her, Hana's control. Thus if Hana's mother left, it was an insignificant irrational issue, not something to make Hana feel powerless or hurt. She couldn't control it, but that was because she didn't want to. It was not worthy of Hana's notice. That is safe, yes, but it's horribly limiting. What Hana needed to learn (and by now she has) is that some things are worth trying even if you can't control them, even if they have the capacity to hurt you. Loving is worth the risks.

And that brings us to Seokman. For Seokman, he needs the feeling of control (even if that control is directly tied to guilt) in order to function. His whole life is defined by responsibility - he genuinely feels the accident that killed his family and put that bike kid in a coma is his fault. This is patently absurd - he was in the back seat and he asked his father to speed a bit because he wanted to catch a game on TV. Leaving aside the fact that his Dad was the driver and it was up to him to listen or ignore what a kid is saying, there is the big honking fact that Seokman cannot in any way be held responsible for the fact that a truck driver fell asleep at the wheel and drifted into the wrong lane. But Seokman has to feel it's his fault in order to have control over his life, paradoxically enough - because if it's not his fault, then he's just a victim of some really awful luck and it all becomes meaningless and he's just terrifyingly helpless. By claiming responsibility, it's his way of reclaiming control (sort of the way victims of crimes often do the blame game - "if only I did not walk down X street after dark, as I should have known not to, I would not get mugged." It restores power and agency to them). Because if it's his fault, then he's resonsible for bike kid's coma which means he needs to take care of bike kid's medical bills which gives him a reason to live. So very messed up. Basically, what he needs to learn (and he has started, already) that sometimes you need to acknowledge you have no control over bad things, and the best you can do is grieve and let go.
dangermousie: (Capital Scandal Secrets by miss_dian)
I just want to blabber a little about the theme of control in Someday because 3 of its four characters have huge control issues.



First, we'll take the most normal person out of the four - Haeyoung. Haeyoung is neither a control freak nor is she powerless. Her attitude is perfectly healthy - she does not go around thinking it's her fault somehow that Go prefers Hana (because ultimately she cannot control the way someone else's heart would go) but nor does she view herself as a passive victim of fate - she does try to change his mind - but not in an evil other girl way but in a sane normal fashion.

Unfortunately, that normalcy is something the other three characters lack.

Let's star with Go. Go's problem is that he is good at exercising control and so he does it as much as he can, even when he shouldn't. To put it plainly, he's controlling - Hana comes over to Korea to solve the mystery of Gumiko's diary. She does not come to find her mother. Yet Go insists on finding the mother for her, thrusting himself front and center into a complex emotional situation. Why? He is not Hana's boyfriend or even friend, but even if he was, that is no excuse to do things, major things affecting her life, without her consent or even knowledge. And it continues - whether it's huge things like finding her mother or bringing over her grandmother from Japan, or little things like taking her to a cemetary without asking her first, or proposing to her/pressuring her in a crowd of people, even while he knows Hana has no interest at all. There is a huge problem with that, aside from the fact that it is simply wrong - whatever benefits it may give him in the short term, it's an awful long-term strategy. Does he really think Hana (or any other person) would want to stay in a relationship where she is constantly controlled and/or manipulated? This is going to doom anything with Hana to disaster! He should know this uniquely well - the man is a shrink by profession and can read others like a book. But yet it seemingly never occurs to him things won't go according to his plan longterm - we get the sense that he's someone who's never had a wish of his denied or a desire ungratified. I think he may actually not care about the longterm because he's so consumed by immediate gratification, so unused to defeat. He needs to learn, so badly, that just because you can control someone, doesn't mean you should.

Hana has a different control problem. Her trauma is that her mother walked out on her to be with a man when Hana was still a child. Hana, thankfully, did not devolve into blaming herself or anything else of the sort, but how she dealt with the situation, with maintaining control and not being hurt again is to precisely delineate what is worthy of control and what is not - and she made her view on love be that it's a hormonal delusion at best, clearly it was something nonexistant and thus not worthy of her, Hana's control. Thus if Hana's mother left, it was an insignificant irrational issue, not something to make Hana feel powerless or hurt. She couldn't control it, but that was because she didn't want to. It was not worthy of Hana's notice. That is safe, yes, but it's horribly limiting. What Hana needed to learn (and by now she has) is that some things are worth trying even if you can't control them, even if they have the capacity to hurt you. Loving is worth the risks.

And that brings us to Seokman. For Seokman, he needs the feeling of control (even if that control is directly tied to guilt) in order to function. His whole life is defined by responsibility - he genuinely feels the accident that killed his family and put that bike kid in a coma is his fault. This is patently absurd - he was in the back seat and he asked his father to speed a bit because he wanted to catch a game on TV. Leaving aside the fact that his Dad was the driver and it was up to him to listen or ignore what a kid is saying, there is the big honking fact that Seokman cannot in any way be held responsible for the fact that a truck driver fell asleep at the wheel and drifted into the wrong lane. But Seokman has to feel it's his fault in order to have control over his life, paradoxically enough - because if it's not his fault, then he's just a victim of some really awful luck and it all becomes meaningless and he's just terrifyingly helpless. By claiming responsibility, it's his way of reclaiming control (sort of the way victims of crimes often do the blame game - "if only I did not walk down X street after dark, as I should have known not to, I would not get mugged." It restores power and agency to them). Because if it's his fault, then he's resonsible for bike kid's coma which means he needs to take care of bike kid's medical bills which gives him a reason to live. So very messed up. Basically, what he needs to learn (and he has started, already) that sometimes you need to acknowledge you have no control over bad things, and the best you can do is grieve and let go.
dangermousie: (Capital Scandal Secrets by miss_dian)
I just want to blabber a little about the theme of control in Someday because 3 of its four characters have huge control issues.



First, we'll take the most normal person out of the four - Haeyoung. Haeyoung is neither a control freak nor is she powerless. Her attitude is perfectly healthy - she does not go around thinking it's her fault somehow that Go prefers Hana (because ultimately she cannot control the way someone else's heart would go) but nor does she view herself as a passive victim of fate - she does try to change his mind - but not in an evil other girl way but in a sane normal fashion.

Unfortunately, that normalcy is something the other three characters lack.

Let's star with Go. Go's problem is that he is good at exercising control and so he does it as much as he can, even when he shouldn't. To put it plainly, he's controlling - Hana comes over to Korea to solve the mystery of Gumiko's diary. She does not come to find her mother. Yet Go insists on finding the mother for her, thrusting himself front and center into a complex emotional situation. Why? He is not Hana's boyfriend or even friend, but even if he was, that is no excuse to do things, major things affecting her life, without her consent or even knowledge. And it continues - whether it's huge things like finding her mother or bringing over her grandmother from Japan, or little things like taking her to a cemetary without asking her first, or proposing to her/pressuring her in a crowd of people, even while he knows Hana has no interest at all. There is a huge problem with that, aside from the fact that it is simply wrong - whatever benefits it may give him in the short term, it's an awful long-term strategy. Does he really think Hana (or any other person) would want to stay in a relationship where she is constantly controlled and/or manipulated? This is going to doom anything with Hana to disaster! He should know this uniquely well - the man is a shrink by profession and can read others like a book. But yet it seemingly never occurs to him things won't go according to his plan longterm - we get the sense that he's someone who's never had a wish of his denied or a desire ungratified. I think he may actually not care about the longterm because he's so consumed by immediate gratification, so unused to defeat. He needs to learn, so badly, that just because you can control someone, doesn't mean you should.

Hana has a different control problem. Her trauma is that her mother walked out on her to be with a man when Hana was still a child. Hana, thankfully, did not devolve into blaming herself or anything else of the sort, but how she dealt with the situation, with maintaining control and not being hurt again is to precisely delineate what is worthy of control and what is not - and she made her view on love be that it's a hormonal delusion at best, clearly it was something nonexistant and thus not worthy of her, Hana's control. Thus if Hana's mother left, it was an insignificant irrational issue, not something to make Hana feel powerless or hurt. She couldn't control it, but that was because she didn't want to. It was not worthy of Hana's notice. That is safe, yes, but it's horribly limiting. What Hana needed to learn (and by now she has) is that some things are worth trying even if you can't control them, even if they have the capacity to hurt you. Loving is worth the risks.

And that brings us to Seokman. For Seokman, he needs the feeling of control (even if that control is directly tied to guilt) in order to function. His whole life is defined by responsibility - he genuinely feels the accident that killed his family and put that bike kid in a coma is his fault. This is patently absurd - he was in the back seat and he asked his father to speed a bit because he wanted to catch a game on TV. Leaving aside the fact that his Dad was the driver and it was up to him to listen or ignore what a kid is saying, there is the big honking fact that Seokman cannot in any way be held responsible for the fact that a truck driver fell asleep at the wheel and drifted into the wrong lane. But Seokman has to feel it's his fault in order to have control over his life, paradoxically enough - because if it's not his fault, then he's just a victim of some really awful luck and it all becomes meaningless and he's just terrifyingly helpless. By claiming responsibility, it's his way of reclaiming control (sort of the way victims of crimes often do the blame game - "if only I did not walk down X street after dark, as I should have known not to, I would not get mugged." It restores power and agency to them). Because if it's his fault, then he's resonsible for bike kid's coma which means he needs to take care of bike kid's medical bills which gives him a reason to live. So very messed up. Basically, what he needs to learn (and he has started, already) that sometimes you need to acknowledge you have no control over bad things, and the best you can do is grieve and let go.
dangermousie: (ALTK by alexandral)
1. I had a really long and complicated dream about the end of IRIS. Can you say 'obsessed?' Subs are out through ep 18 so I am debating whether to save them until this week's final eps so I know how it ends, or goble it now.

2. Someday reminded me of my Kim Min Joon love so next drama to check out is In-soon is pretty. Yeah, I know about the bipolar script, but I am used to that with Bollywood and any drama that has both KMJ and Lee Wan in it would have to be beyond horrific for me not to check it out at least.



3. Still obsessing over Someday. My discs for eps 13-16 aren't due from Netflix until Wednesday and I can't wait that long so...yup, am obsessed. I loved this scene with Haeyoung and Seokman. I loved that Seokman's self-destructive breakdown is finally over and he is back to a (modified) version of himself. I feel for Haeyoung and her anger - her artist is incapacitated and her writer has just come to quit. That is why they say dating in the workplace never works :)




I got shudders when Seokman said that he is willing to go into debt if he needs to pay damages to her. Argh not again. I am sure that won't be necessary but - yikes. And of course he believes he should not see Hana again because of what happened when he was on his little trip to insanityland - you know, it was a horrible scene, but if he was less nice and had more self-esteem (or at least some self-esteem - hopefully he is going to regrow it) then he'd just find Hana and apologize - grovel if necessary. But he is so used to think of himself as nothing that he sort of automatically jumps into the morass of guilt and viewing himself as undeserving of even seeking forgiveness.

Oddly, I don't feel angry at Go for not telling Seokman of Hana's injury. It's not because he is carrying out Hana's wishes (since when did it ever stop him) or even to prevent them from meeting again, I think, but because he wantt to share some very personal experience with her that Seokman hasn't. And that's a bit sad.
dangermousie: (ALTK by alexandral)
1. I had a really long and complicated dream about the end of IRIS. Can you say 'obsessed?' Subs are out through ep 18 so I am debating whether to save them until this week's final eps so I know how it ends, or goble it now.

2. Someday reminded me of my Kim Min Joon love so next drama to check out is In-soon is pretty. Yeah, I know about the bipolar script, but I am used to that with Bollywood and any drama that has both KMJ and Lee Wan in it would have to be beyond horrific for me not to check it out at least.



3. Still obsessing over Someday. My discs for eps 13-16 aren't due from Netflix until Wednesday and I can't wait that long so...yup, am obsessed. I loved this scene with Haeyoung and Seokman. I loved that Seokman's self-destructive breakdown is finally over and he is back to a (modified) version of himself. I feel for Haeyoung and her anger - her artist is incapacitated and her writer has just come to quit. That is why they say dating in the workplace never works :)




I got shudders when Seokman said that he is willing to go into debt if he needs to pay damages to her. Argh not again. I am sure that won't be necessary but - yikes. And of course he believes he should not see Hana again because of what happened when he was on his little trip to insanityland - you know, it was a horrible scene, but if he was less nice and had more self-esteem (or at least some self-esteem - hopefully he is going to regrow it) then he'd just find Hana and apologize - grovel if necessary. But he is so used to think of himself as nothing that he sort of automatically jumps into the morass of guilt and viewing himself as undeserving of even seeking forgiveness.

Oddly, I don't feel angry at Go for not telling Seokman of Hana's injury. It's not because he is carrying out Hana's wishes (since when did it ever stop him) or even to prevent them from meeting again, I think, but because he wantt to share some very personal experience with her that Seokman hasn't. And that's a bit sad.
dangermousie: (ALTK by alexandral)
1. I had a really long and complicated dream about the end of IRIS. Can you say 'obsessed?' Subs are out through ep 18 so I am debating whether to save them until this week's final eps so I know how it ends, or goble it now.

2. Someday reminded me of my Kim Min Joon love so next drama to check out is In-soon is pretty. Yeah, I know about the bipolar script, but I am used to that with Bollywood and any drama that has both KMJ and Lee Wan in it would have to be beyond horrific for me not to check it out at least.



3. Still obsessing over Someday. My discs for eps 13-16 aren't due from Netflix until Wednesday and I can't wait that long so...yup, am obsessed. I loved this scene with Haeyoung and Seokman. I loved that Seokman's self-destructive breakdown is finally over and he is back to a (modified) version of himself. I feel for Haeyoung and her anger - her artist is incapacitated and her writer has just come to quit. That is why they say dating in the workplace never works :)




I got shudders when Seokman said that he is willing to go into debt if he needs to pay damages to her. Argh not again. I am sure that won't be necessary but - yikes. And of course he believes he should not see Hana again because of what happened when he was on his little trip to insanityland - you know, it was a horrible scene, but if he was less nice and had more self-esteem (or at least some self-esteem - hopefully he is going to regrow it) then he'd just find Hana and apologize - grovel if necessary. But he is so used to think of himself as nothing that he sort of automatically jumps into the morass of guilt and viewing himself as undeserving of even seeking forgiveness.

Oddly, I don't feel angry at Go for not telling Seokman of Hana's injury. It's not because he is carrying out Hana's wishes (since when did it ever stop him) or even to prevent them from meeting again, I think, but because he wantt to share some very personal experience with her that Seokman hasn't. And that's a bit sad.
dangermousie: (Goong by gasmask)
I am so obsessed with Someday that I actually downloaded an ep I have on DVD just so I could cap this scene.

I squeed like a crazy person during this scene in ep 10:



If I shipped Hana and Seokman any harder, I'd probably be locked up.

The scene in question )

Currently am in the middle of episode 12 and such love! Of course, it says oodles of things about Seokman that I am cheering his basically drinking himself into unconsciousness and smashing his hands because it all means he's given up suicide attempts - yay. Good Lord, there are no words for how messed up that boy is.

(Btw, I need a Lee Jin Wook icon. For some weird reason, he really really does it for me in a ridiculous way. I remember watching Smile Again, where he's the secondary guy, and not only did I *gasp* actually uncanon-ship, but I basically went into a hormonal frenzy whenever he was on screen. I have no idea, why that is, but there it is. Oh well, I suppose I can have worse taste than sharing taste in men with Choi Ji Woo :) (They are one of the very few rl couples I find ridiculously adorable).)

Pssst, this is on Netflix.

ETA: There is self-destructive and then there is this. Idiot idiot idiot idiot you deserve to lose her! But that was my favorite scene in the drama so far - I am so sick. Mmmm, anger and love and angst and so much flipping dysfunction.

ETA2: I kept thinking that all his stuff in eps 11-12 is a hell of an overreaction on his part to the Hana-being-proposed-to thing - the stimulus and the reaction are out of all proportion. And then it hit me - it's not about Hana, not really - it's basically continuation/next stage of his epic breakdown - his "cheering up" to go see Hana and chosing her as his sole meaning in life (which is unsustainable to start with, I'd think, in any healthy individual!) was a temporary lull - his breakdown was nowhere near complete yet and so even if he didn't see Hana being proposed to, he would have come down from the artificial high soon enough for some other reason and back into messed-up-ville because he was nowhere near done with dealing with all that trauma. Even if it all worked out perfectly when he saw her, not only would have it only fixed it for a while, it was so very not good - he would have substituted his 'debt' to Jinwook's family with his loving/living for Hana and that would have been horribly unhealthy.

I don't think I have ever seen another kdrama character as much in need of good solid therapy.

ETA3: I totally love Haeyoung. Out of all the characters, she's the most mature and "whole" and I totally love how fearless and clear-eyed she is about everything. LOVE. Also, the scene with Hana and Hana's Mom was so very good. That was such a huge thing for them to actually talk.
dangermousie: (Goong by gasmask)
I am so obsessed with Someday that I actually downloaded an ep I have on DVD just so I could cap this scene.

I squeed like a crazy person during this scene in ep 10:



If I shipped Hana and Seokman any harder, I'd probably be locked up.

The scene in question )

Currently am in the middle of episode 12 and such love! Of course, it says oodles of things about Seokman that I am cheering his basically drinking himself into unconsciousness and smashing his hands because it all means he's given up suicide attempts - yay. Good Lord, there are no words for how messed up that boy is.

(Btw, I need a Lee Jin Wook icon. For some weird reason, he really really does it for me in a ridiculous way. I remember watching Smile Again, where he's the secondary guy, and not only did I *gasp* actually uncanon-ship, but I basically went into a hormonal frenzy whenever he was on screen. I have no idea, why that is, but there it is. Oh well, I suppose I can have worse taste than sharing taste in men with Choi Ji Woo :) (They are one of the very few rl couples I find ridiculously adorable).)

Pssst, this is on Netflix.

ETA: There is self-destructive and then there is this. Idiot idiot idiot idiot you deserve to lose her! But that was my favorite scene in the drama so far - I am so sick. Mmmm, anger and love and angst and so much flipping dysfunction.

ETA2: I kept thinking that all his stuff in eps 11-12 is a hell of an overreaction on his part to the Hana-being-proposed-to thing - the stimulus and the reaction are out of all proportion. And then it hit me - it's not about Hana, not really - it's basically continuation/next stage of his epic breakdown - his "cheering up" to go see Hana and chosing her as his sole meaning in life (which is unsustainable to start with, I'd think, in any healthy individual!) was a temporary lull - his breakdown was nowhere near complete yet and so even if he didn't see Hana being proposed to, he would have come down from the artificial high soon enough for some other reason and back into messed-up-ville because he was nowhere near done with dealing with all that trauma. Even if it all worked out perfectly when he saw her, not only would have it only fixed it for a while, it was so very not good - he would have substituted his 'debt' to Jinwook's family with his loving/living for Hana and that would have been horribly unhealthy.

I don't think I have ever seen another kdrama character as much in need of good solid therapy.

ETA3: I totally love Haeyoung. Out of all the characters, she's the most mature and "whole" and I totally love how fearless and clear-eyed she is about everything. LOVE. Also, the scene with Hana and Hana's Mom was so very good. That was such a huge thing for them to actually talk.
dangermousie: (Goong by gasmask)
I am so obsessed with Someday that I actually downloaded an ep I have on DVD just so I could cap this scene.

I squeed like a crazy person during this scene in ep 10:



If I shipped Hana and Seokman any harder, I'd probably be locked up.

The scene in question )

Currently am in the middle of episode 12 and such love! Of course, it says oodles of things about Seokman that I am cheering his basically drinking himself into unconsciousness and smashing his hands because it all means he's given up suicide attempts - yay. Good Lord, there are no words for how messed up that boy is.

(Btw, I need a Lee Jin Wook icon. For some weird reason, he really really does it for me in a ridiculous way. I remember watching Smile Again, where he's the secondary guy, and not only did I *gasp* actually uncanon-ship, but I basically went into a hormonal frenzy whenever he was on screen. I have no idea, why that is, but there it is. Oh well, I suppose I can have worse taste than sharing taste in men with Choi Ji Woo :) (They are one of the very few rl couples I find ridiculously adorable).)

Pssst, this is on Netflix.

ETA: There is self-destructive and then there is this. Idiot idiot idiot idiot you deserve to lose her! But that was my favorite scene in the drama so far - I am so sick. Mmmm, anger and love and angst and so much flipping dysfunction.

ETA2: I kept thinking that all his stuff in eps 11-12 is a hell of an overreaction on his part to the Hana-being-proposed-to thing - the stimulus and the reaction are out of all proportion. And then it hit me - it's not about Hana, not really - it's basically continuation/next stage of his epic breakdown - his "cheering up" to go see Hana and chosing her as his sole meaning in life (which is unsustainable to start with, I'd think, in any healthy individual!) was a temporary lull - his breakdown was nowhere near complete yet and so even if he didn't see Hana being proposed to, he would have come down from the artificial high soon enough for some other reason and back into messed-up-ville because he was nowhere near done with dealing with all that trauma. Even if it all worked out perfectly when he saw her, not only would have it only fixed it for a while, it was so very not good - he would have substituted his 'debt' to Jinwook's family with his loving/living for Hana and that would have been horribly unhealthy.

I don't think I have ever seen another kdrama character as much in need of good solid therapy.

ETA3: I totally love Haeyoung. Out of all the characters, she's the most mature and "whole" and I totally love how fearless and clear-eyed she is about everything. LOVE. Also, the scene with Hana and Hana's Mom was so very good. That was such a huge thing for them to actually talk.
dangermousie: (Last Scandal: hold by anenko)
Yes, I am still obsessed with Someday. Am through ep 11 and it's so so so very good.

A few quick thoughts:

* Even though it is nothing like Mars in most ways, it does remind me of it in one way - when we meet our protagonists you realize that the heroine is messed-up, visibly so, right away, but are impressed by how well the hero seems to be holding up under his situation - in fact it's amazing that he can do so well. And then as it goes on, you realize that he's the one who's truly broken.

* Episode 10 did the same thing ep 7 did only times a million - lured me in with its delicious sweetness, made me relax and smile and awww and then - pull the rug from under me, and then while I am still lying there, kick me in the ribs a few times with nailed boots. It's just - I still think that Seokman needed that meltdown - his 'I am so happy all the time despite the horribleness of my life, and am also happy in my worthlessness' state was NOT a good thing but - I mean - fhfrjfjdfjsksk - ajiurjfkdels. He is officially the most messed-up kdrama lead I have come across. I mean, breaking down artificial internal barriers is all well and good but not if that barrier was the only thing keeping him from killing himself! Eps 10 and 11 were pretty brutal. Especially because of how guilty he feels that he wants to live, that he botches his suicide attempt(s). It's just - you're 22! You're just a kid! It wasn't your fault and you have survivor guilt and I just want to fix you!

* Go is the character I have most mixed-up feelings about. On one hand, he's mature and not screwed-up (unlike Seokman and Hana) but OTOH his manipulativeness is creeping me out - when a man 10 years older than the woman tells her "I know you better than you know yourself" while doing things without asking her first - I get bristly. Don't even get me started on the proposal - people who do it in public (unless they've been dating a long time and know the girl will say yes for sure) are crass to do it in a public place because it puts pressure on the recipient. Also, I think Go is deluded - suppose by some miracle her got Hana to reciprocate - so what? Except for Go loving her drawings, they have nothing in common interest or personality-wise. That relationship would be doomed for disaster. It is all the more frustrating because he has Haeyoung by his side, who is his equal, his best friend, and someone who loves him but he is so busy pursuing his cloud castle with Hana, he is blind to it.

* I love Hana more and more. In some ways, she is the smartest, most straightforward when it comes to dealing with love - she denied its existence (due to family history) but once she decides to let it in, she is fearless and right - she has her head screwed on incredibly straight, yet at the same time she is like a space alien exploring earth - mixed in with her love for Seokman is a puzzlement and exploratory behavior of someone who's seen something utterly new. Also, despite the fact that Seokman needs therapy like there is no tomorrow, they are so very compatible and bring out the best in each other - he is the one responsible for her thaw and becoming a human being (and I love that she doesn't become a human being because of love - that would be trite and silly - no, she becomes a human being because of wonder and fun and friendship Seokman brings with him - and it's that initial thaw that enables her to fall in love) and she is the one who enables him to want something for himself and to be happy for the first time since the accident (when he mentions this is the first time since then he can sleep through the night - that's huge).

* I do love that the drama points head on that it's not just romantic for someone to be someone else's sole reason for living - the way Hana is the reason Seokman doesn't kill himself post the whole thing with Jinwook in ep 10 and the way he tells Jinwook's family he wants to live because of her. No, what it is, is dysfunctional - a symptom of not so good things - because if that is the only thing keeping you alive, it means everything else in your life must be awful - you must have no intrinsic self-worth or happiness. So I love that the drama really shows that. Yes, I love that Seokman loves Hana (his love literally saves him from death, whoa), but he needs to get better psychically if she is literally his sole reason for living. I want him to love her just as much as he does now, but I want him to be healed enough so he won't die/drift into utter despair if he doesn't have her! I am not that keen on Go, but while he would be upset if Hana turned him down, he would go on to live a happy life after a while. That is healthy.

* Hana's drawings - I love them (she let Seokman erase her pencil lines too - heee - she is so possessive of her drawings). I also love that she's basing that manga lead on Seokman. Awwwwww. (The bit where he sees she fell asleep on the floor with her sketchbook and covers her up with a blanket and then he flips through her sketches and sees it and his face - and then he cuddles up to her - I melted a billion different ways).

OK, these are getting super long.
dangermousie: (Last Scandal: hold by anenko)
Yes, I am still obsessed with Someday. Am through ep 11 and it's so so so very good.

A few quick thoughts:

* Even though it is nothing like Mars in most ways, it does remind me of it in one way - when we meet our protagonists you realize that the heroine is messed-up, visibly so, right away, but are impressed by how well the hero seems to be holding up under his situation - in fact it's amazing that he can do so well. And then as it goes on, you realize that he's the one who's truly broken.

* Episode 10 did the same thing ep 7 did only times a million - lured me in with its delicious sweetness, made me relax and smile and awww and then - pull the rug from under me, and then while I am still lying there, kick me in the ribs a few times with nailed boots. It's just - I still think that Seokman needed that meltdown - his 'I am so happy all the time despite the horribleness of my life, and am also happy in my worthlessness' state was NOT a good thing but - I mean - fhfrjfjdfjsksk - ajiurjfkdels. He is officially the most messed-up kdrama lead I have come across. I mean, breaking down artificial internal barriers is all well and good but not if that barrier was the only thing keeping him from killing himself! Eps 10 and 11 were pretty brutal. Especially because of how guilty he feels that he wants to live, that he botches his suicide attempt(s). It's just - you're 22! You're just a kid! It wasn't your fault and you have survivor guilt and I just want to fix you!

* Go is the character I have most mixed-up feelings about. On one hand, he's mature and not screwed-up (unlike Seokman and Hana) but OTOH his manipulativeness is creeping me out - when a man 10 years older than the woman tells her "I know you better than you know yourself" while doing things without asking her first - I get bristly. Don't even get me started on the proposal - people who do it in public (unless they've been dating a long time and know the girl will say yes for sure) are crass to do it in a public place because it puts pressure on the recipient. Also, I think Go is deluded - suppose by some miracle her got Hana to reciprocate - so what? Except for Go loving her drawings, they have nothing in common interest or personality-wise. That relationship would be doomed for disaster. It is all the more frustrating because he has Haeyoung by his side, who is his equal, his best friend, and someone who loves him but he is so busy pursuing his cloud castle with Hana, he is blind to it.

* I love Hana more and more. In some ways, she is the smartest, most straightforward when it comes to dealing with love - she denied its existence (due to family history) but once she decides to let it in, she is fearless and right - she has her head screwed on incredibly straight, yet at the same time she is like a space alien exploring earth - mixed in with her love for Seokman is a puzzlement and exploratory behavior of someone who's seen something utterly new. Also, despite the fact that Seokman needs therapy like there is no tomorrow, they are so very compatible and bring out the best in each other - he is the one responsible for her thaw and becoming a human being (and I love that she doesn't become a human being because of love - that would be trite and silly - no, she becomes a human being because of wonder and fun and friendship Seokman brings with him - and it's that initial thaw that enables her to fall in love) and she is the one who enables him to want something for himself and to be happy for the first time since the accident (when he mentions this is the first time since then he can sleep through the night - that's huge).

* I do love that the drama points head on that it's not just romantic for someone to be someone else's sole reason for living - the way Hana is the reason Seokman doesn't kill himself post the whole thing with Jinwook in ep 10 and the way he tells Jinwook's family he wants to live because of her. No, what it is, is dysfunctional - a symptom of not so good things - because if that is the only thing keeping you alive, it means everything else in your life must be awful - you must have no intrinsic self-worth or happiness. So I love that the drama really shows that. Yes, I love that Seokman loves Hana (his love literally saves him from death, whoa), but he needs to get better psychically if she is literally his sole reason for living. I want him to love her just as much as he does now, but I want him to be healed enough so he won't die/drift into utter despair if he doesn't have her! I am not that keen on Go, but while he would be upset if Hana turned him down, he would go on to live a happy life after a while. That is healthy.

* Hana's drawings - I love them (she let Seokman erase her pencil lines too - heee - she is so possessive of her drawings). I also love that she's basing that manga lead on Seokman. Awwwwww. (The bit where he sees she fell asleep on the floor with her sketchbook and covers her up with a blanket and then he flips through her sketches and sees it and his face - and then he cuddles up to her - I melted a billion different ways).

OK, these are getting super long.
dangermousie: (Last Scandal: hold by anenko)
Yes, I am still obsessed with Someday. Am through ep 11 and it's so so so very good.

A few quick thoughts:

* Even though it is nothing like Mars in most ways, it does remind me of it in one way - when we meet our protagonists you realize that the heroine is messed-up, visibly so, right away, but are impressed by how well the hero seems to be holding up under his situation - in fact it's amazing that he can do so well. And then as it goes on, you realize that he's the one who's truly broken.

* Episode 10 did the same thing ep 7 did only times a million - lured me in with its delicious sweetness, made me relax and smile and awww and then - pull the rug from under me, and then while I am still lying there, kick me in the ribs a few times with nailed boots. It's just - I still think that Seokman needed that meltdown - his 'I am so happy all the time despite the horribleness of my life, and am also happy in my worthlessness' state was NOT a good thing but - I mean - fhfrjfjdfjsksk - ajiurjfkdels. He is officially the most messed-up kdrama lead I have come across. I mean, breaking down artificial internal barriers is all well and good but not if that barrier was the only thing keeping him from killing himself! Eps 10 and 11 were pretty brutal. Especially because of how guilty he feels that he wants to live, that he botches his suicide attempt(s). It's just - you're 22! You're just a kid! It wasn't your fault and you have survivor guilt and I just want to fix you!

* Go is the character I have most mixed-up feelings about. On one hand, he's mature and not screwed-up (unlike Seokman and Hana) but OTOH his manipulativeness is creeping me out - when a man 10 years older than the woman tells her "I know you better than you know yourself" while doing things without asking her first - I get bristly. Don't even get me started on the proposal - people who do it in public (unless they've been dating a long time and know the girl will say yes for sure) are crass to do it in a public place because it puts pressure on the recipient. Also, I think Go is deluded - suppose by some miracle her got Hana to reciprocate - so what? Except for Go loving her drawings, they have nothing in common interest or personality-wise. That relationship would be doomed for disaster. It is all the more frustrating because he has Haeyoung by his side, who is his equal, his best friend, and someone who loves him but he is so busy pursuing his cloud castle with Hana, he is blind to it.

* I love Hana more and more. In some ways, she is the smartest, most straightforward when it comes to dealing with love - she denied its existence (due to family history) but once she decides to let it in, she is fearless and right - she has her head screwed on incredibly straight, yet at the same time she is like a space alien exploring earth - mixed in with her love for Seokman is a puzzlement and exploratory behavior of someone who's seen something utterly new. Also, despite the fact that Seokman needs therapy like there is no tomorrow, they are so very compatible and bring out the best in each other - he is the one responsible for her thaw and becoming a human being (and I love that she doesn't become a human being because of love - that would be trite and silly - no, she becomes a human being because of wonder and fun and friendship Seokman brings with him - and it's that initial thaw that enables her to fall in love) and she is the one who enables him to want something for himself and to be happy for the first time since the accident (when he mentions this is the first time since then he can sleep through the night - that's huge).

* I do love that the drama points head on that it's not just romantic for someone to be someone else's sole reason for living - the way Hana is the reason Seokman doesn't kill himself post the whole thing with Jinwook in ep 10 and the way he tells Jinwook's family he wants to live because of her. No, what it is, is dysfunctional - a symptom of not so good things - because if that is the only thing keeping you alive, it means everything else in your life must be awful - you must have no intrinsic self-worth or happiness. So I love that the drama really shows that. Yes, I love that Seokman loves Hana (his love literally saves him from death, whoa), but he needs to get better psychically if she is literally his sole reason for living. I want him to love her just as much as he does now, but I want him to be healed enough so he won't die/drift into utter despair if he doesn't have her! I am not that keen on Go, but while he would be upset if Hana turned him down, he would go on to live a happy life after a while. That is healthy.

* Hana's drawings - I love them (she let Seokman erase her pencil lines too - heee - she is so possessive of her drawings). I also love that she's basing that manga lead on Seokman. Awwwwww. (The bit where he sees she fell asleep on the floor with her sketchbook and covers her up with a blanket and then he flips through her sketches and sees it and his face - and then he cuddles up to her - I melted a billion different ways).

OK, these are getting super long.
dangermousie: (BSG: Helo/Athena by lyssie)
I really have only one thing to say about this ep: PILLOWFIGHT.

OK, shippy obsession aside, ep 9 of Someday was so pitch-perfect, you guys. And actually, I think it's the first time we've ever seen Hana laugh - really laugh. It was so wonderful.

I continue to ship Hana/Seokman so hard that it's becoming mildly embarassing - if this keeps up, they are going to go on my favorite drama OTPs list for sure. The funny thing is, I feel rather protective and big-sisterish towards them - I want to fix them up and feed them and just - I don't know. In age and personality I am a lot closer to Haeyoung (yay, finally remembered Secondary Girl's name) and I do adore her to bits - clever, compassionate, feeling bad that she is manipulating "children" but doing so anyway both because she likes Hana and Seokman and can tell they are in love even if they don't realize it but also because she wants Dr. Go for herself.

This ep is full of the incredible adorableness of my OTP - they are living in the same house together! And went shopping! And he made her hangover soup and she almost let him color in her art panels. :P And they are actually sharing thoughts and feelings, which seeing how closed-off they are, in different ways, is so huge. Did I mention the scene where she gets tipsy and wants him to apologize (for earlier disappearing) - and it's the shippiest thing ever. But it's the power games of Go and Haeyoung that really drive this episode's plot a lot - Haeyoung knows Go likes Hana so she is pushing the OTP together in large part because she wants Go (they've been best friends forever btw) for herself but she won't admit it to Go that this is why - saying she wants them to hook up out of altruism and their living together in her company house is "business". And Go won't admit to her that the reason he is opposed to this is because he wants Hana for himself - he just does various other manuevres. And they both know exactly what the other is doing and why but won't admit it out loud.

Kim Min Joon (who plays Go) is, as always, ridiculously gorgeous but he is really freaking me out. He hasn't done a single evil thing nor do I think he ever will (it's not a melodrama, after all) but the mere fact that he CAN manipulate so well (the man is a shrink by profession after all) is disturbing because Haeyoung is his equal - it's a level playing field. But neither Hana nor Seokman are, and not just because they are close to a decade younger. They are emotionally vulnerable in the way Go or Haeyoung are not. I have to say, the scene where Go loses it with a motorist, and this is the first time we see him lose control so utterly was both disturbing and sexy and very welcome because for once he is not wearing a tightly-controlled urbane mask but allowing himself to show what he really feels (anger, jealousy, helplessness).

All four of the main characters wear these really elaborate masks and this is an episode of firsts - you see them really break for Hana (whose indifference is wearing off by leaps and bounds - she is angry at Seokman, she is jealous of Haeyoung, she laughs and shares her feelings and tells Seokman she wants to get to know what makes him tick - she is acting 100% human), for Go (whose urbane polite mask is finally beginning to crack), for Haeyoung (this episode is the first time we see her truly vulnerable - in the aftermath of seeing Go break down). Not so for Seokman yet - he has managed to remain vulnerably sweet-natured despite all the horribleness of ep 8. Of course, he is a selfless darling, just as Hana really is introverted, Go laid-back and polite and Haeyoung strong - the problem is that he, like the rest of them, has been stifling natural human reactions to various things (they all do, whether due to trauma (Hana, Seokman) or habit (Go, Haeyoung)) and that is not a healthy, viable way to live. Just as Hana needs to break out of her isolation and react with emotion, whether that emotion be joy or anger, Seokman needs to break out of his own penance and allow himself to feel negative emotions and to allow himself to express them - whether it's rage or jealousy or selfishness. Because in his nice way, he's even more of an emotional cripple than Hana is. Repressing is not good and neither is lack of self-worth or complete self-abnegation. That is not a way to live. Interestingly, the preview for ep 10 seems to show that he's about to have that thorough emotional meltdown that is about 5 years overdue. Good. He needs it, however ugly it's going to get.

Unless the quality of this drama nosedives in the last 7 eps, this is in my all-time drama Top 10.
dangermousie: (BSG: Helo/Athena by lyssie)
I really have only one thing to say about this ep: PILLOWFIGHT.

OK, shippy obsession aside, ep 9 of Someday was so pitch-perfect, you guys. And actually, I think it's the first time we've ever seen Hana laugh - really laugh. It was so wonderful.

I continue to ship Hana/Seokman so hard that it's becoming mildly embarassing - if this keeps up, they are going to go on my favorite drama OTPs list for sure. The funny thing is, I feel rather protective and big-sisterish towards them - I want to fix them up and feed them and just - I don't know. In age and personality I am a lot closer to Haeyoung (yay, finally remembered Secondary Girl's name) and I do adore her to bits - clever, compassionate, feeling bad that she is manipulating "children" but doing so anyway both because she likes Hana and Seokman and can tell they are in love even if they don't realize it but also because she wants Dr. Go for herself.

This ep is full of the incredible adorableness of my OTP - they are living in the same house together! And went shopping! And he made her hangover soup and she almost let him color in her art panels. :P And they are actually sharing thoughts and feelings, which seeing how closed-off they are, in different ways, is so huge. Did I mention the scene where she gets tipsy and wants him to apologize (for earlier disappearing) - and it's the shippiest thing ever. But it's the power games of Go and Haeyoung that really drive this episode's plot a lot - Haeyoung knows Go likes Hana so she is pushing the OTP together in large part because she wants Go (they've been best friends forever btw) for herself but she won't admit it to Go that this is why - saying she wants them to hook up out of altruism and their living together in her company house is "business". And Go won't admit to her that the reason he is opposed to this is because he wants Hana for himself - he just does various other manuevres. And they both know exactly what the other is doing and why but won't admit it out loud.

Kim Min Joon (who plays Go) is, as always, ridiculously gorgeous but he is really freaking me out. He hasn't done a single evil thing nor do I think he ever will (it's not a melodrama, after all) but the mere fact that he CAN manipulate so well (the man is a shrink by profession after all) is disturbing because Haeyoung is his equal - it's a level playing field. But neither Hana nor Seokman are, and not just because they are close to a decade younger. They are emotionally vulnerable in the way Go or Haeyoung are not. I have to say, the scene where Go loses it with a motorist, and this is the first time we see him lose control so utterly was both disturbing and sexy and very welcome because for once he is not wearing a tightly-controlled urbane mask but allowing himself to show what he really feels (anger, jealousy, helplessness).

All four of the main characters wear these really elaborate masks and this is an episode of firsts - you see them really break for Hana (whose indifference is wearing off by leaps and bounds - she is angry at Seokman, she is jealous of Haeyoung, she laughs and shares her feelings and tells Seokman she wants to get to know what makes him tick - she is acting 100% human), for Go (whose urbane polite mask is finally beginning to crack), for Haeyoung (this episode is the first time we see her truly vulnerable - in the aftermath of seeing Go break down). Not so for Seokman yet - he has managed to remain vulnerably sweet-natured despite all the horribleness of ep 8. Of course, he is a selfless darling, just as Hana really is introverted, Go laid-back and polite and Haeyoung strong - the problem is that he, like the rest of them, has been stifling natural human reactions to various things (they all do, whether due to trauma (Hana, Seokman) or habit (Go, Haeyoung)) and that is not a healthy, viable way to live. Just as Hana needs to break out of her isolation and react with emotion, whether that emotion be joy or anger, Seokman needs to break out of his own penance and allow himself to feel negative emotions and to allow himself to express them - whether it's rage or jealousy or selfishness. Because in his nice way, he's even more of an emotional cripple than Hana is. Repressing is not good and neither is lack of self-worth or complete self-abnegation. That is not a way to live. Interestingly, the preview for ep 10 seems to show that he's about to have that thorough emotional meltdown that is about 5 years overdue. Good. He needs it, however ugly it's going to get.

Unless the quality of this drama nosedives in the last 7 eps, this is in my all-time drama Top 10.

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